The Messy Spirituality Podcast

Hosted by Jason Elam, The Messy Spirituality Podcast features interviews with authors, speakers, and thinkers about finding God in unexpected places.

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In this episode, I speak with one of my favorite authors, speakers, and thinkers-Brian McLaren. Brian D. McLaren is an author, speaker, activist, and public theologian. A former college English teache...
April 26, 2022
In this episode, Co-host, Ashley Robbins, and I talk to Macey Berry about her experience growing up in purity culture and the devastating impact it had on her life. You can connect with Macey on Faceb...
April 14, 2022
In this episode, I'm joined by my friend James Early. James is a Bible teacher, speaker, blogger, and podcaster. He grew up in Amarillo, TX, and received his BA from Vanderbilt University. He gives ta...
March 5, 2022
My good friend, Karl Forehand, had a stroke in January 2022.  A month later, he and his wife, Laura, joined me for a conversation about the stroke, Karl's recovery, ongoing therapy, hopes for the futu...
March 2, 2022
I'm joined on this episode by two of our favorite apostates, Matthew J. Distefano and Keith Giles. We discuss the recent criticism of deconstruction by many within evangelicalism. Are any of their cri...
February 25, 2022
In this episode co-hosted by Ashley Robbins, we discuss the hurt caused by toxic church institutions and a possible way forward taking the best of church community but leaving behind the many destruct...
February 7, 2022
In this conversation, we speak with activist and former pastor Joshua Lawson about his compelling work with people who struggle with substance use disorder. We dive into the roots of addiction, the hi...
January 13, 2022
We're kicking off season three today with a special introduction by our friend, Ashley Robbins! My guest this week is prolific author and podcaster, Keith Giles! In this conversation, we discuss our c...
December 22, 2021
In this conversation, I talk to my friend, Todd Vick, about his continuing spiritual journey and how we set about reconstructing our mind after deconstruction.  Todd Vick is an author, podcaster, and ...
December 13, 2021
Recently, I had a beautiful and life giving conversation with my friend, Joe Machuta.  In this conversation, we discuss Joe’s eclectic spiritual journey as well as his stubborn love for Jesus. It real...
November 23, 2021

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